Comments on: Stop Coding in the Middle Ages http://www.codelord.net/2010/02/16/stop-coding-in-the-middle-ages/ A place a coder rants at... Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:13:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: abyx http://www.codelord.net/2010/02/16/stop-coding-in-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-3982 abyx Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:07:07 +0000 http://www.codelord.net/?p=126#comment-3982 leeand00 - You're awesome for testing your code! You're even more awesome for making your teammates use proper tools. Well done! :) I know it can be hard at times, but it's well worth it. Good luck :) leeand00 – You’re awesome for testing your code! You’re even more awesome for making your teammates use proper tools. Well done! :)
I know it can be hard at times, but it’s well worth it.
Good luck :)

]]> By: leeand00 http://www.codelord.net/2010/02/16/stop-coding-in-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-3981 leeand00 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:03:53 +0000 http://www.codelord.net/?p=126#comment-3981 I wholly agree! Stop coding in the middle ages! The shop where I'm currently at uses VS2005, and I'm their web-guy. I proudly unit test my Javascript code, to make sure it works on all browsers, using js-test-driver. Before I started working here they didn't even use version control! And they scoffed at the idea of using vcs, because I was so much younger than them. (stone ages...*humph*) Now that they're using version control, (and I gotta hand it too them, they picked a good one, using hg), I'm trying to convince them that it doesn't matter what tool a language is written in as long as it gets the job done and works well. They're planning on switching to VS2010 eventually, and presently I'm using Eclipse to do my development on the front-end, but I get yelled at for this. What I'd like to convince them is that the tools that I'm using in Eclipse are transferable to vs2010. And they are as they are all external tools to the IDE: - js-test-driver - ant (used to deploy webapps) The reason I use the tools above is that they're currently not using any modern tools other than hg for development. Besides it's not like we are using a .NET or Java-based framework anyway, it's something they developed in-house. I wholly agree! Stop coding in the middle ages!

The shop where I’m currently at uses VS2005, and I’m their web-guy.

I proudly unit test my Javascript code, to make sure it works on all browsers, using js-test-driver.

Before I started working here they didn’t even use version control! And they scoffed at the idea of using vcs, because I was so much younger than them. (stone ages…*humph*)

Now that they’re using version control, (and I gotta hand it too them, they picked a good one, using hg), I’m trying to convince them that it doesn’t matter what tool a language is written in as long as it gets the job done and works well.

They’re planning on switching to VS2010 eventually, and presently I’m using Eclipse to do my development on the front-end, but I get yelled at for this. What I’d like to convince them is that the tools that I’m using in Eclipse are transferable to vs2010.

And they are as they are all external tools to the IDE:
- js-test-driver
- ant (used to deploy webapps)

The reason I use the tools above is that they’re currently not using any modern tools other than hg for development.

Besides it’s not like we are using a .NET or Java-based framework anyway, it’s something they developed in-house.

]]> By: abyx http://www.codelord.net/2010/02/16/stop-coding-in-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-3980 abyx Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:16:11 +0000 http://www.codelord.net/?p=126#comment-3980 Angel - I don't claim to be a master Emacs user, but I do believe Emacs can beat just about anything with enough configuration :) Problem is, I've yet to see someone write a refactoring tool for Java that's as competent as Eclipse's/IDEA's Angel – I don’t claim to be a master Emacs user, but I do believe Emacs can beat just about anything with enough configuration :)
Problem is, I’ve yet to see someone write a refactoring tool for Java that’s as competent as Eclipse’s/IDEA’s

]]> By: Tzipi http://www.codelord.net/2010/02/16/stop-coding-in-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-3978 Tzipi Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:03:10 +0000 http://www.codelord.net/?p=126#comment-3978 You are so awesome. I'm thinking about creating an admiring group for you in facebook. That Agnes cracked me!! I'm going to use this Agnes alot :) and finally, I believe that this is in place - the words of the awed Sergei - למה לא אפיינת?! You are so awesome.

I’m thinking about creating an admiring group for you in facebook.

That Agnes cracked me!! I’m going to use this Agnes alot :)

and finally, I believe that this is in place – the words of the awed Sergei –
למה לא אפיינת?!

]]> By: Angel http://www.codelord.net/2010/02/16/stop-coding-in-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-3976 Angel Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:41:24 +0000 http://www.codelord.net/?p=126#comment-3976 It's clear that you haven't learned to use vim or emacs pretty well. Yes, those editors have a learning curve, but once it's dominated they are way too much powerful than any other editors/ides (like Eclipse). I know, it's hard, I know it's slow at first, but check books like Coders at work and see what other, more experienced, programmers are using. Seriusly, you don't have idea. It’s clear that you haven’t learned to use vim or emacs pretty well. Yes, those editors have a learning curve, but once it’s dominated they are way too much powerful than any other editors/ides (like Eclipse).

I know, it’s hard, I know it’s slow at first, but check books like Coders at work and see what other, more experienced, programmers are using.

Seriusly, you don’t have idea.

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